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Post by gandalfthesparkly on May 7, 2009 20:46:30 GMT -5
OOC: So...this thread has been floating around my head for a while, and a certain voice in my head won't let it go...so here goes nothing, This thread is a chill place to have a meeting of the minds! Everyone is welcome to have multiple characters, similar to the beach party, I don't think a formal turn order is really neccessary here as it would probably stifle the conversations, but do post responsibly,
Breathe deep, Think fast, and hold on.
STAR: Welcome all, welcome, find your seats, or stand or lie down, or pace if you must, but please do so quietly. I have called this meeting so that we may all spend some time together working out the mysteries we are surrounded by, to solve some of the Universe's mysteries, and to have some fun at each other's expense. I think first we should all introduce ourselves, characters and creators alike, I will start... My name is Star, I generally reside in the year...well it isn't really established, but extreme future. I was formerly a starship captain and now I travel on the ship Eclipse with a rather motley crew. I am a philospher at heart and I am excited to finally be calling this gathering!
OOC: I'm Lori, most of you already know me, Some of you like me, some of you probably hate me...I'm an artist, I play at writing, but mostly I just make the characters and let them tell me what to do...
ZEKE: I'm glad to be here, I'm around 200 years old, and I quite enjoy these meetings. I'm a vampire and my perspective is a little different than most, living this long gives one...several changes of mind.
OOC: The others are on their way, but they're a bit preoccupied right now. Anyone else care to introduce themselves?
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Post by Shmoie on May 8, 2009 0:42:50 GMT -5
OOC: Hmmm... who do I have that could fit in in this discussion... okay, let's try these two.
CAPRICE: Greetings, all! (beaming) Well. This is very exciting... (sweeps off her hat) My name's Caprice. I'm an adventurer, and you can be sure that I'll die an adventurer. I believe in destiny, magic and victorious protagonists. It's wonderful to meet you!
OOC: I think she can be surprisingly deep. Or let's hope she can be. XD
SVANNA: (low) Svanna Hauksson. Pirate.
OOC: This is mostly for the purposes of me getting some kind of backstory out of her. If it turns out she's too monosyllabic, I'll swap her out for Twilight. You hear that, Svanna?? -.-
SVANNA: (shoots a glare, no reply)
OOC: Oh, yeah, and I'm Zoe. ^^ I'm an undefeated optimist, so yeah, be prepared for that.
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Post by emuarti9lives on May 8, 2009 1:33:47 GMT -5
OOC: ooh, i do like this. Hiya all, my names Lyndel, and i do rather enjoy contemplating the deeper meanings of cheesecake and black holes, so this is very exciting for me.
Brennan: Please tell me you're not going to carry on like that the whole time. It embarrasses some of us. Good evening everyone. My names is Brennan Masters, and I currently reside in London where I spend my time as the marshal vampire for the community. It is a great pleasure to finally meet you all.
OOC: oh i will carry on like this, so you be nice and grateful that i finally let you out or i'll sic Gravey on you.
Gravey: I'm sick? Since when? Salutations, people and variances there on. I'm Gravey, I'm crazy, but sometimes I make sense.
Zach: We doing a philosophy forum? I am totally down with that. Hey everyone, I'm Zach, and I'm finishing up my degrees in English and teaching. I currently TA the English Lit class, and I'm just telling you now, Shakespeare knew it all.
CenterStage: Ah Shakespeare. He was, indeed, one of the greatest minds. He made an excellent tragedy, one of my favorites. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. I am called CenterStage. I am here for the show.
OOC: o.O wtc? how'd you get out?
CenterStage: Please, the human condition is my favorite form of drama. Now don't interrupt.
OOC: i...i....<<pouts>>...okay. the rest of mine are sitting around listening, they'll chime in eventually.
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Post by Bananachan on May 9, 2009 18:53:10 GMT -5
OOC: Fun times.
Carius: Greetings, salutations, bonjour, hola, and hello. My name is Carius Amelie LaFontae, inventor extraordinare and self-aware allegory. But you can call me Carrie. I believe in freedom, intelligence, following your dreams, love conquering all, rocking the boat, and listening to authority only when the advice is applicable. I am twenty, but do not let my youth affect your judgment of me, as I have seen things that give me authority to speak of them.
OOC: Hey y'all. I'm, uh... me. You guys pretty much know me. I sometimes think hippies had the right idea, but I also sometimes think the same thing about Vulcans. And that's all the philosophy you get from me personally for the moment.
Angel: Nice to meet you all... I'm, um, Angel. I guess that name carries a lot of connotations with it, and I'm not sure I fit them all, but I do my best to be who and what feels right. My life has been... less than easy, but I try to be optimistic. And for those of you who know her, but not me, I'm Kitty's stepfather.
Kent: ... <<sigh>> Fine. I'll talk. I'm Kent. I'm sort of a fire demon... spirit... thing. It's hard to explain, since my creator hasn't decided yet exactly what to call me. I've been around for about a century and a half, and even though I've seen Fate with my own eyes I don't believe in it. I guess that's why I'm here.
OOC: These three seem the most interesting... if someone else has something to say, they'll say it. xD
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Post by gandalfthesparkly on May 9, 2009 19:47:34 GMT -5
Star: Alright, first question. What happens to an unstoppable force when it hits an immovable object?
OOC: I think the unstoppable force would have to move through the immovable object. So the object remains unmoved and the force doesn't stop.
Zeke: No, because in passing through the object the force would have to shift the atomic structure of the object causing it to move. I believe they would come to an impass, the would remain in constant contact, and the unstaoppable force would simply have to remain in motion.
Star: Alright, anyothers?
OOC: Aren't you answering?
Star: I'll answer at the end, I am moderating for now. Anyone else?
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Post by Shmoie on May 9, 2009 20:54:05 GMT -5
Caprice: Hold on - are we talking about insurmountable obstacles, here? Because those don't exist, you know; not in real life, anyway...
OOC: I think she's talking figuratively... I agree with Zeke.
Svanna: (nods)
Caprice: (mumbles to herself) Well I think we should talk about real life.
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Post by emuarti9lives on May 10, 2009 1:12:18 GMT -5
CenterStage: I find it hard to believe that any object is truly immovable. There may be a force that is truly unstoppable since th potential for creating energy is virtually limitless. Every object in the universe has potential energy that may be released if worked upon properly, which is why I find it hard to believe that there would be an object able to withstand an unstoppable force.
Brennan: I also think that the immovable object would be the one that would give way.
OOC: well I think...i agree with Zeke, the unstoppable force would continue trying to progress forward, like those retarded birds who keep trying to get through the window.
Gravey: No, no. They both implode slightly, creating a brief window into the dimension of paradoxes, where they continue their epic struggle until the day when all reason is vanquished and the paradoxes take their rightful place among the sciences. And then everyone will hear the singing.
OOC:....thank you, Gravey.
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Post by Bananachan on May 10, 2009 17:18:44 GMT -5
Carius: To be fair, shifting the atomic structure of an object does not mean its dimensions in space have changed, or that the number of particles in it will be different once the unstoppable force has moved through. From a physics standpoint, the atoms and molecules in an object move when that object is heated, but that doesn't mean the object itself has budged. I'm in agreement with Miss gandalf.
OOC: She talks like that, sorry... I agree with Carrie and Lori.
Angel: Philosophically speaking, I think Caprice is correct, and I'm afraid I'm not much use from a scientific standpoint.
Kent: ... I don't think such an event would actually be technically possible, as it would create a paradox. The crazy girl's right about that part... but nothing beyond that part made any sense to me.
OOC: Again, sorry I posted this on Zoo's account first. I should pay more attention to these things.
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Post by elizabucket on May 10, 2009 21:41:21 GMT -5
OOC: I think that the unstopable force would bounce off the immovable object without stopping to realize that the immovable object was immovable, hence the unstopability of such a force.
Mack: I'm rooting for the unstopable force myself. Immovable objects can be so arrogant, don't you think, Ezekiel?
Ebson: I am interested in the opinion of... Centerstage was it? It's an interesting theory, what with kinetic energy and all that, however what about oppositional energy? If the balance of the universe is to remain constant then certainly there must be an immovable object to counter the unstoppable force or neither at all.
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Post by gandalfthesparkly on May 13, 2009 10:32:50 GMT -5
STAR: So far we have, by my count, Seven votes in favor of the unstoppable force moving through or past the immovable object, One Vote in favor of the Immovable object, Five in favor of the two reaching some sort of impass, and two in favor of a paradoxical result. I would take a standpoint that by definition the immovable object must stay grounded in it position, while the unstoppable force is not neccessarily constrained to one direction. So in essence the solution could be as simple as the unstoppable force detouring around said object, or "bouncing off" as Miss Bucket so nicely put it.
OOC: I suppose you have a point there Star, we never did establish the exact size of said immovable object.
ZEKE: I think Dr. Ebson raises a good point with the theory of oppositional energy and the idea of the object repelling the force in another direction would make sense. And MAck, I am not really sure what you mean by supposing the arrogancy of immovable objects.
STAR: It seems that we are getting closer to an answer, are there any new opinons, or would anyone care to extrapolate on previous points such as, oppositional energy, the immovability of the object, passing through, paradoxes, or the arrogancy of immovable objects?
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Post by Bananachan on May 15, 2009 21:58:00 GMT -5
Carius: Now that I think about it, bouncing off would make the most sense. Dr. Ebson is correct, Newton's third law tells us that for every action, there exists an equal and opposite reaction. The immovable object would then have to exist to balance out the existence of the unstoppable force, and if the unstoppable force exerted itself on the object, the object would exert a force back in the opposite direction, causing it to bounce away, and neither stopping the unstoppable force nor moving the immovable object.
Kent: I still think it's a paradox.
OOC: I'm not entirely sure. But they're done now, I think.
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Post by emuarti9lives on May 15, 2009 23:02:53 GMT -5
Zach: But doesn't a bounce imply a momentary stoppage of the unstoppable force, however brief it is? If we're talking a straight-on impact here, not some glancing blow, there'd be a moment where the structure of the unstoppable force would have to reverse in direction, and that means there'd be an where essentially the structure is not moving in either direction. Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the force being unstoppable? CenterStage: If the immovable object is the balancing opposite of the unstoppable force, their existence would somehow be reliant on each, and the only solution would be a resulting paradox. Which makes this whole scenario quite boring. OOC: i have to agree with Zach here, a bounce is cheating.
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Post by gandalfthesparkly on May 20, 2009 18:47:58 GMT -5
STAR: So, taking hold of the bounce theory, does a bounce mean that the force stops momentarily? Is it cheating, a theoretical cop-out? I would say that the scenario does not neccessarily imply a straight on blow. and thus a bounce could be a redirection rather than a reversal.
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Post by emuarti9lives on Jun 9, 2009 1:40:44 GMT -5
Zach: It's still cheating.
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Post by The Lawyer Pixie on Jun 11, 2009 23:01:23 GMT -5
Harlequin: (appears) I would like to offer that neither aforementioned anomaly is what it appears to be. I've been an unstoppable force, and an immovable object. And then I was not.
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